tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12390900.post9046294713643413202..comments2023-09-15T06:05:55.920-04:00Comments on gcooke's blog: Traveling Wellgcookehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17029435701308074373noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12390900.post-37023908575287958232007-05-24T12:00:00.000-04:002007-05-24T12:00:00.000-04:00ga, I don't even like most drills for throwing. F...ga, I don't even like most drills for throwing. Far too few touches and running per minute, and they aren't even game-realistic.<BR/><BR/>I can see a drill if your team is just going to be doing "static throwing" or just hanging around, but if the players are going to be running around, I'd rather see them doing the active warmup and then active throwing, maybe with a long drill or a thrower/cutter drill or breakmark drill.<BR/><BR/>Then again, my view is from a mature team. Maybe newer teams need a little more structure.<BR/><BR/>(But I'm also thinking about professional teams which seem to have structured warmups. I think those differ because they target each skill group with their own warmup.)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673038840692864298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12390900.post-49166974026736291502007-05-22T08:39:00.000-04:002007-05-22T08:39:00.000-04:00One thing that I found helpful when sleeping in a ...One thing that I found helpful when sleeping in a hotel and getting ready for Sunday was to take a very hot shower and stretch in what is essentially a sauna.<BR/><BR/>This would get me limber enough that I could go get breakfast and then do an active warm-up at the fields.<BR/><BR/>-Ggcookehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17029435701308074373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12390900.post-83544520578141464992007-05-21T22:57:00.000-04:002007-05-21T22:57:00.000-04:00George,I never party either. I agree that a decent...George,<BR/><BR/>I never party either. I agree that a decently large meal is a requirement, but I don't like to play on a full stomache, and two sandwhiches is too much for me, even after two hours. A bowl of oatmeal+fruit+nuts, or a bagel with egg and sausage, does me just fine. Active warmups are awesome, but I do like some brief static stretching too. Mr. Doo says it has no place before a game, but I find that my groin and hamstrings need a little loosening.<BR/><BR/>Jim,<BR/><BR/>I had not thrown in at least a week prior to the tournament, so I needed a little reminder of what a flat backhand looked like. I agree, though, it is far more beneficial to throw within a drill. Go-to is a simple favorite.gapoolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13379733859426588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12390900.post-79598121581371884302007-05-21T15:18:00.000-04:002007-05-21T15:18:00.000-04:00Marshall,I think I once said to you that I never a...Marshall,<BR/><BR/>I think I once said to you that I never attended an Ultimate Party. I was always in bed.<BR/><BR/>Jim, <BR/><BR/>I think most folks that any time spent warming up throws was a waste in my case. I mean, how much time do I need to get my 10 yard backhand and forehand passes together?<BR/><BR/>-Ggcookehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17029435701308074373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12390900.post-37304787041831067342007-05-21T13:33:00.000-04:002007-05-21T13:33:00.000-04:00I think that using warmup time for just throwing i...I think that using warmup time for just throwing is highly inefficient. I'd bet that your throws would be more game-ready by taking 10 throws and then running (with some sprinting and crossovers and the like) for 10 minutes than they would be by using that extra 10 minutes for throwing. (You could easily do a controlled experiment on this, but make sure that you have a 2 minute break after the 10 minutes just in case there is some short-term hangover effect from having thrown a bunch.)<BR/><BR/>The following exceptions apply:<BR/>1. Wind that affects particular throws (say a hammer) and you want to test it out.<BR/>2. Your arm is truly tired or sore or old and you need extra time to loosen it up, a la a baseball pitcher.<BR/>3. Your throws are still on the learning curve, so the warmup doubles as practice in which you hope to improve (but this is still more appropriate for practice warmup than game warmup).<BR/>4. You use the throwing time as visualization for the upcoming game, mentally making passes to actual cuts in specific places on the field.<BR/><BR/>So, maybe I'd still recommend throwing, but only when it's part of a routine of running and throwing to cuts. I think the "20 forehands, 20 backhands, 20 inside outs, etc." is a waste. If you don't mind spending an hour and a half for the warmup, then go ahead.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673038840692864298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12390900.post-7437291019761738022007-05-21T12:55:00.000-04:002007-05-21T12:55:00.000-04:00We're such a weird sport. Home teams may well win...We're such a weird sport. <BR/><BR/>Home teams may well win in part because traveling teams are usually missing people. <BR/><BR/>That said, the idea of being up and moving around 2-3 hours before the event, and especially eating a good, big breakfast early, seems like a no-brainer. Except that Ultimate starts at 9:00. As a practical matter, who wants to be up at 6:00? And especially on Sunday, since Ultimate parties are so much fun...<BR/><BR/>I remember one time reading a Manchester United player (might'a been Beckham) complaining a bit that his team had so many of the showcase, early Saturday games at noon, since that meant he had to be up at 9:00 eating a big plate of pasta for breakfast.Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02088933618393426860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12390900.post-41536832243428415912007-05-21T09:39:00.000-04:002007-05-21T09:39:00.000-04:00Hey Glenn,Just to make sure I was clear, 3 hours w...Hey Glenn,<BR/><BR/>Just to make sure I was clear, 3 hours was from waking up to the first point.<BR/><BR/>You have a bunch of stuff in yor comments. I have a couple of thoughts;<BR/><BR/>-I think 1 hour is the minimum time for showing up at the fields. <BR/>-My opinion is that a BIG breakfast 1.5-2 hours is the way to go. I did a bunch of work on sports nutrition and I think lots of fuel is in order, but it needs to be consumed well in advance.<BR/>-I sometimes found it hard to integrate my personal warm up routine into the team's routine. I believe the team needs to warm up togther, but I do feel that it is ok for an indivisual to also warm up on their own. One thing that was helpful for me was that I would lead the active warm-ups for 6TM, so that got me integrated a bit better.<BR/><BR/>-Ggcookehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17029435701308074373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12390900.post-82510425160605522982007-05-21T09:07:00.000-04:002007-05-21T09:07:00.000-04:00In my first year of high school Ultimate, we had t...In my first year of high school Ultimate, we had to deal with tardiness at almost every tournament, because we were a bunch of kids trying to wake up and drive to the fields. In my junior/senior year, it was much easier--the school provided us with a bus to all the local tournaments and we were more organized in getting to the distant ones. But each year, we had a defined warmup routine, and I like to think it kept us on the same page mentally.<BR/><BR/>In college, we tried to make sure we had enough sleep, a decent breakfast, and enough time to warm up (30-45 minutes), but there were times when we did not have enough time to warm up, and we definitely suffered for it. Our routines varied, which I didn't like, but I think overall the warmup routines in college were better than the ones I used in high school.<BR/><BR/>I just played my first mixed club tournament, and we specifically did not warm up together. It was a tryout tournament, the team has only had one tryout practice, so it was up to every individual to get ready. I missed the first game on Saturday due to transportation issues. I did an abbreviated warmup, but after a few throwaways early in my first game, I think I played surprisingly well. On Sunday, I did no warmup other than throwing, and again it showed. I don't think I personally need 3 hours, but I do think I need a more defined routine in order to prepare, physically/mentally, for a game.gapoolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13379733859426588864noreply@blogger.com